“It's a friendship with a higher purpose. I wouldn’t be telling my story as much as I do today if I hadn’t answered Larry’s phone calls.”
How and when did you meet?
After I retired for good, I started volunteering at the Heinz History Center. Up to that point, I hadn’t talked about my military time at all. Most Vietnam vets didn’t — coming home was not a pleasant experience. We just put it aside and lived our lives. But at the History Center, I would give tours to other veterans and would often talk about our experiences. That’s when I met Lee. He was working with a group of veterans and bringing them to see an exhibit on Vietnam. He impressed me how he treated those older Vietnam vets with such respect. They treated him as a comrade. That bond was instant. Veterans tend to connect that way, no matter what era they served in.
What’s something surprising or unexpected about your friendship?
Larry: For me, the surprise was how close I felt to a younger vet. I wasn’t looking for that kind of relationship. I’ve met many veterans, but with Lee, the connection was immediate and strong — almost like with a brother. It took me by surprise, because you don't go out looking for something like that, and I’m grateful for it. And when he’s retired someday, I know he’ll look for those same connections with younger generations. That’s how it continues.
What do you admire most about your friend?
Lee: I admire Larry’s intelligence and memory—how he remembers everything, and he uses that to connect with other veterans and teach other generations about our history. When we present to high school kids, he’ll ask the questions he knows they want to ask, in a way that helps us answer and keeps them engaged. That’s impressive, and I aspire to that.